Host Johnnette Williams uses the book " The Three Conversions in the Spiritual Life" to share ways got gain graces in life. She explains the three stages of the spiritual life-the Purgative Way; the Illuminative Way; and the Unitive Way. Caller Suzanne shares that she has a husband who is full of hate for other races. He relates to those who recently shot people at a store. Johnnette tries to share what she should do next. Give it a listen.