Host Johnnette Williams welcomes new age blogger Sue Brinkmann as they talk about wacky things that distract from the faith. This week they discuss envoking spirits. The question comes up from an email where the person heard a Black Lives Matter meeting where calling the people's names who have died will give you power. Sue says this is an old voo doo practice. Caller Brenda wants to know about tarot cards and essentials oils.