David Daleiden, founder of the Center for Medical Progress

In a soon-to-be released video by The Center for Medical Progress, StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer jokes about how their customers don’t like it when they send whole fetal baby parts through the mail because their lab techs “freak out”.

According to the Center for Medical Progress, Dyer made the comments over dinner one day about how “squeamish” lab workers can be about handling baby parts. The excerpts were released when the temporary restraining order against the release of any videos containing StemExpress personnel was dissolved.

At one point in the discussion, Dyer claims that most labs want the body parts, but don’t really want to know where they come from.

“As you probably know, one of the issues with neural tissue, it’s so fragile. It’s insanely fragile. And I don’t even know—I was gonna say, I know we get requests for neural, it’s the hardest thing in the world to ship,” Dyer says.

At which point, the undercover “buyer” responds: “You do it as the whole calvarium.” [whole head]

“Yeah, that’s the easiest way,” Dyer says.

“Make sure the eyes are closed!” the buyer jokes.

“Yeah! [laughter] Tell the lab it’s coming!” Dyer says. “They’ll open the box, go, ‘Oh God!’”[laughter] ”So yeah, so many of the academic labs cannot fly like that, they’re not capable.”

“Why is that? I don’t understand that,” the buyer asks.

“It’s almost like they don’t want to know where it comes from,” Dyer explains. “Where they’re like, ‘We need limbs, but no hands and feet need to be attached’ . . .. Or they want long bones, and they want you to take it all off, like, make it so that we don’t know what it is.”

She later says, “And their lab techs freak out, and have meltdowns, and so it’s just like, yeah. I think, quite frankly, that’s why a lot of researchers ultimately, some of them want to get into other things. They want to look at bone marrow, they want to look at adipose- sort of adult human, kind of adult based sampling. They want to avoid publishing a paper that says it was derived from fetal tissue.”

Dyer also confirms the unsanitary conditions in many of the clinics where their reps work.

“I’ve seen really rampant, rampant problems with bacteria in certain clinics. [laughter] Some where you’re kind of in question of should they really, you know, [laughing] . . . I’ve seen staph come out of clinics.. . . So, I mean, I’ve seen all sorts of things come out of clinics, so.”

The Center for Medical Progress intends to release a video of the full conversation shortly.

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